Hm, first of all, congratulations on getting a Daily Deviation on this piece. Personally, I think it's an extraordinary feature and addition to add to this community, certainly not for the weak minded and invalid individuals to understand it's concept, given the previous comments about how that you did not deserve it, do not give any second thought to what they think. It's not fair how you have been caught in the middle of a battle for raising one's selfish opinions to the fact that they disagree with this feature.
Just make sure you keep up with this amazing work, and to soak any and all haters opinions in just to drive you to keep doing at what you do best.
Yeah, for sure I will keep up with my works negative comments don't stop me. And i'm not worried about this "battle" : it's a normal risk someone has to run through, when sharing its own works on internet. I know that pictures BDSM related are quite risky under this aspect.
Anyway thank you very much for your kind and long comment !
This is a brilliant image and I applaud the photographer and the model for doing an excellent job.
The only thing about it that bothers me is the photographer's name and date written across the front of it. It is distracting and takes away from what is an otherwise fantastic work. I understand people want to protect their work but putting your name across it isn't helping. It's only ruining what is otherwise something beautiful.
Great photo in terms of technique... ...but this is the reason women get raped. How they are shown at most places to be weak, submissive, being tortured; no wonder they are being treated more and more like objects. Sure art is supposed to make you think and feel, but an artist (or any decent human being for that matter) should have a sense of what kind of feelings he would like to invoke in people.
So bravo to the artist for wasting his talents on contributing to the mentality of crime against women!
hello Renu Sharma. I'm sorry to read this words from you. I've read about all the ugly episodes that happened in your country, in mine and all over the world against women. But this work is stricty related to BDSM culture and trust me what you are seeing is not a WEAK woman! I don't know how much you know about the philosophy behind this alternative sexuality, but for sure it's not about making violence against women! I'm a male and I've also been in the past a submissive: it requests a lot more strength than anything else. So, what I've portraied, is a strong woman that is giving herself to a person that she trusts and loves. She want to be in this way, nobody is ordering her to be in that way. For sure I've not changed your mind but anyway I wanted to tell you the truth about this picture. Please don't confuse BDSM with violence: it's a free choice of free people.
Thank you for being respectful. I didn't mean any offense to your photography skills. As I said, technically a great photo.
Just that we have different opinions and as you said you know what has been happening in my country recently, I am probably a little too touchy about the subject. Some people enjoy consensual BDSM, there is most certainly nothing wrong with that. But the way it is being glorified these days, like that is what is 'in'. This is expected out of women, to be submissive, tied up, abused; from even those who don't want it. To put all the blame on men for rapes isn't perfectly justified in my opinion. It is more of a society crime (or whatever the term is). And I don't believe that anybody would deny the fact that how women are presented in the media today has a lot to do with the raising amount of crime against women. Women want to objectify themselves. They are raised to feel the need to be pretty as opposed to smart and they often dumb themselves down to get the attention of the opposite sex.
Having said that, I do understand your point. I may have come across as harsh and I apologize for that. And again, thank you for being respectful.
definetely I'm for civil and polite debate of course! I know that there are so many big problems in this world and for sure everyone should work to solve them. But at the same time I think that is wrong to forbid some cultures (in this case BDSM/bondage/Fetish...) to express themselves just to solve another problem (violence on woman always in this case).this is not fair! I know that nowdays Bondage and Fetish are kind of fashion but this representation doesn't belong to the people that really are part of the scene and it's also not good for them, because too many times they're are represented in a wrong way (as violent/sick people for example). I'm trying to represent a part of this world not because it's fashionable and trendy but because it's part of my life and experience and I try to do that in the more honest possible way.
I want you also to know that the model of this picture is also my partner and that we do this to share what we like with people that have the our same tastes. And that we do this because we love one each other. Yes there's love also in BDSM....
I wanted to share with you a bit of my world because I hope you can manage to look at this picture with a different eye.
This is such a shortsighted, rude, and uneducated comment.
Bondage play is between 2 consenting adults who both enjoy it. It has absolutely nothing at all to do with why women get raped. Women get raped because rapists are mentally and emotionally disturbed human beings.
Rest assured the woman posing for this picture was not forced to do so.
If I want to be submissive, and tied up during consensual relations, then I will. And I'll be damned if let you, or anyone else, tell me than I shouldn't, or that I'm some kind of freak, or in some way contributing to crimes against women.
If you don't like bondage, don't do it. If you don't like this photo, don't look at it. But don't make offensive comments that insult the photographer, and an entire cross-section of society that participates in a genre of erotica that you clearly know NOTHING about. It only succeeds in making you look ignorant.
Sure, you have a right, and I have a right to tell you that what you said is ignorant and rude. I never said you didn't have the right, I just suggested that you shouldn't, as a rule of courtesy and common decency. And if you're going to go onto a public forum and insult people, you should expect backlash.
Let me make myself clear. You're entitled to think that bondage is "yucky" and you're entitled to think, or even say, that one should not take pictures of it and post it publicly. Where you went wrong in my book, is when you said that such pictures are "why women get raped". That statement is incredibly outlandish and simply wrong.
Women were getting raped LONG before cameras were invented, and they'll be getting raped as long as there are disturbed people in this world. And I'll tell you one thing, the people I've met who partake in bondage are some of the nicest, most respectful, and most stable people I've ever met in my life.
Men get raped too. It's not because they are portrayed as weak in society, it's because the rapist is fucked up in the head. Also, bondage goes both ways; women can be dominant, and men can be submissive. So your statement does not hold water for many reasons.
Further, I believe there is a time/place for everything. You're entitled to your opinions, I just think that posting a comment on someone's photo on DA is a very poor choice - simply rude. That's just my opinion. When I see a picture on DA that I don't like, I just hit this magical button that looks like a left arrow on my browser, and it makes the picture go away. I never disrespect the artist with comments like yours.
Ok, I stopped reading at "Let me make myself clear. You're entitled to think that bondage is "yucky"". You clearly didn't read a word of what I wrote since I never said anything that remotely suggests that. So there is clearly no point in discussing anything with you. I am out!
And I admire yours. You claim that images of healthy, consenting women who enjoy the loss of power from this kind of sexual play encourage rape? It's a myth that the Dom is in control of a session. If the sub safewords at any point then the dom backs off, it's about trust and giving yourself over completely to someone you love. Not encouraging said person to rape you.
The way you come across in your comments is rude, belittling this photographer's work and making him out to be some sort of sudo-rapist. It isn't until you're directly confronted by him (and man, he's so -nice-) that you back off in the way you're talking about his artwork.
I am more than willing to admit that there are certain things that can skew people’s perceptions of rape. Certain sex scenes that start out non-consensual and then suddenly she ‘likes’ it? Yeah, no. But BDSM is more than seeing people as sexual objects, and it’s both offensive and ignorant to imply that the culture is responsible for rape or making it seem 'okay' in any way, shape or form.
Safe, sane and consensual is one of the main goals of the community. Don't blame BDSM for the actions of evil people who see women as pleasure objects.
See?! Isn't it wonderful, not blaming a whole sexual lifestyle for the actions of evil people with no moral guidelines?!
It's so refreshing, being able to hold people accountable for their own actions instead of claiming that a single style of photographs taken by consenting adults is encourging or enforcing the idea that women are objects and not people!
Clearly blaming a photographer for sharing their art or a model for agreeing to the shoot is the correct path! I mean, it's not like rapists make their own decisions. It's like they can't choose -not to rape someone-.
It amazes me how this one picture has stirred up so much crap. XD
Women have every right to fill a consentually submissive role as they do to have a dominant one. If you think taking the choice of women to fill the role that they want is the correct way to combat rape mentality, I think that you're sadly mistaken.
Of course they do. As I said to the photographer in response to his comment, there is nothing wrong with bdsm for people who enjoy and it. And it most certainly none of my business what they do in their bedroom. But to promote it in a world where women are already treated as objects isn't a great idea.
Your view point takes away the responsibility of the actual rapist. Saying that people who are into bondage/fetish/bdsm etc. contribute to the mentality of crimes against women is totally absurd, You should educate yourself on the subject. Ignorance is never gonna be a good weapon against rape...
I never said people who are into bondage/fetish/bdsm etc. contribute to the mentality of crimes against women. To each his own, what you do behind closed doors is none of my business. All I meant to say was, promoting this culture only adds to the mentality of men's desire to want to see women as weak and submissive.
Maybe I didn't quote you correct, but to me that's just a small nuance. 'promoting this culture only adds to the mentality of men's desire to want to see women as weak and submissive?' I disagree, It's all about choice. I dare to state that this particular woman has more control over her life than the average traditional woman in our traditional male dominated society. Should woman behave in a way so they don't trigger men's desire to rape them? I don't think so. It doesn't work that way. Women can dress up in a tent or whatever & still get raped. There will never be an answer to rape, greed, murder, you name it, it is inherent to humanity, it doesn't need to get triggered, it is & was always there. Freedom, choice, awareness and common sense need to be cherished, It's all we can strife for....
It really is. What you're doing is part of rape culture - and you're right, we live in a culture that glorifies rape. But you have the wrong solution - you think women should present themselves one way only, otherwise, they're encouraging rape. Which isn't tearing down rape culture at all, and is instead encouraging it, because all it says is that men can't help themselves - if women look weak, men just can't help it, they have to rape them. Instead, you should be thinking "why are we teaching 'don't get raped'? Shouldn't we be teaching 'Don't rape.' instead?"
I really don't think it should be an either/or situation. It is always best to have a plan b. We all know (i think) that rape is never ever going to completely vanish. It can be lessened to a large extent for sure, but never completely eradicated. Evil is here to stay for good. So it really best to teach boys growing up and men 'not to rape' but also to teach women 'not to get raped'.
And why do men rape them? There is a psychological reason behind it, and I while I disagree that this picture should be taken that way, the fact is that it does perpetuate the idea that women are weak and submissive. Just as a picture of a man in this position would perpetuate the idea that men are weak and submissive, even if that's not a particularly common notion.
I don't have a problem with people toying with the idea in private, but I do think that art featuring the idea should probably be kept private as well. In a utopia, it would be perfectly acceptable. In a fucked up world where women get raped by men who see them as weak and submissive and want to feel powerful, it's just asking for trouble.